Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review (V15 Nitro Black Edition)

An update for an already good and price competitive all-rounder gaming laptop

Table of Contents (in short):

++ Main reason to consider:

Excellent value and gaming performance for the price ratio, compared to the competitors

-- Main reason to avoid:

Thermals and cooling system aren’t great + PWM (could result in eyes ache)

Availability

Basic versions, currently selling for $900-$1000: Amazon, Newegg, Tigerdirect, B&H, eBay, Acer

Pro : + Excellent gaming and 3D performance for the price with Skylake I7-6700HQ and GTX 960M 4GB
+ The chassis does not get hot almost at all (though the CPU does heat up)
+ Very good 1080p IPS display (LG LP156WF6-SPB1)
+ Relatively low weight at 2.3kg
+ Keyboard is good (but not great) with good combination of resistance, feedback and travel depth. Touchpad is good enough.
+ Satisfying 4.0 speakers with pleasant sound for music
+ M.2 PCIe storage option
+ Thunderbolt 3 USB-C port
+ Good looks
Con : - Thermals aren't great and CPU will reach high temperatures and throttle in some cases (but it can be handled)
- Screen's outer lid is not rigid enough and one should make sure it is padded when carried in a beg, say
- Only 3 USB ports (except a TB3 port)
- Fans audible even under light load with "balanced" or "High performance" mode, if the CPU works a bit
- Electrical noises from within the laptop, maybe components and build quality isn't good enough (but that's not unique to this laptop)
- Basic version comes with a 5400RPM HDD, no SSHD or SSD
- Maintenance complexity is above average
- PWM mechanism is in use for brightness control which could result in eyes ache
- Audible noise with "High Performance" power mode, even on low load
- Battery running times aren't great at around 4-5 hours for normal use
- Thunderbolt 3 top speed is unknown
- Fixed by bios updated : M.2 NVMe speed is capped at 1.5GB/s
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    Introduction

    ComponentDescription
    ModelAcer Aspire V 15 Nitro - Black Edition, VN7-592G
    PriceAs tested, $950
    CPUIntel Skylake I7-6700HQ, 4C/8T, 2.6-3.5GHZ, 6MB cache
    GPUNvidia Geforce GTX 960M 4GB GDDR5, GM107 (Maxwell I), 640 shaders, core@1097-1200MHZ, GDDR5@1252MHZ, 128-bit bus
    Motherboard / ChipsetAcer Aspire VN7-592G / Intel HM170 (Skylake PCH-H)
    2xPCI Express x1, 1xPCI Express x4, 1xPCI Express x16
    RAMHynix 1x8GB DDR4@2133MHZ HMA41GS6AFR8N-TF
    StorageHDD : Seagate ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB
    SSD: None
    M.2 : total 1xNVMe PCIe x4
    LCD PanelIn review: 1080p IPS LG LP156WF6-SPB1
    Weight / Dimensions2.3kg (~5.07 Lbs.)
    391.16 x 261.62 x 22.86 mm
    15.4" x 10.3" x 0.9"
    (w x d x h)
    KeyboardRed backlit (on/off)
    Connection Portsright side: 1xUSB 3.0, 1xThunderbolt 3 USB-C, 1xUSB 3.0, 1xHDMI, RJ-45, power
    Left: audio out/microphone, card reader, 1xUSB3.0, 1xLexington key
    rear: None
    Camera1080P
    WiFi / EthernetWiFi: Atheros/Qualcomm QCA6174 802.11ac
    Ethernet: RealTek Semiconductor RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
    Speakers / Audio4.0 speakers
    Intel Skylake PCH-H - High Definition Audio Controller. Realtek?
    Battery54Wh
    Bios / EC version (test unit)1.0.1 / 1.0
    Extra features
    more details

    The new Acer Aspire V 15 Nitro Black Edition or VN7-592G is Acer’s new midrange gaming laptop and the successor of the VN7-591G. The VN7-591G was a good gaming laptop with good combination of feature set and gaming performance and the VN7-592G builds upon it with a new Skylake CPU, better IPS display (compared to the first version of the VN7-591G), slightly lower weight, M.2 PCIe slot and Thunderbolt 3 USB-C connection port.

    The VN7-591G major problems were in the thermal department, battery performance and touchpad (read the VN7-591G review), the other issues were not so great. We’ll see how well the VN7-592G does and how much it improves over the VN7-591G.

     

    Build quality, Case, design and looks

    Build quality is good for the chassis and average/mediocre for the outer lid. The base unit can be described as rather firm, but it can be bend with enough pressure – nothing too special. The display panel outer lid is not rigid, just like in the VN7-591G case. It can be bend and twisted and I would suggest making sure it is padded when carried in a beg. The laptop’s surface, including the keyboard’s surrounding surface is rather firm, which is good. Hinges feel ok.

    The main unit is composed from two parts – the bottom of the laptop and the upper facing surface including the keyboard, touchpad and palm rests, just like in the VN7-591G. The design is very similar to the VN7-591G in general, but slightly different, with a different keyboard and red light between the screen and the keyboard.

    Overall, average build quality for current $900-$1000 gaming laptop, I would say.

     

    Looks

    The Acer VN7-592G’s height is a little smaller compared to the VN7-591G and the design makes it look slimmer too. The base unit got some more modern design too.

     

    Maintenance and inner parts

    Maintenance can be a bit of a deal, as you have to remove the keyboard surface first (after removing the bottom screws) and do it carefully, disconnecting 3-4 small cables. Then, the 2.5″ and M.2 slots are revealed. The two RAM slots are on the other side of the motherboard, which will require removing another 5 screws (2 for expansion board, 1 for motherboard and 2 for fans) to be able to get there.

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G motherboard other side RAM cooling Acer Aspire VN7-592G motherboard side one

    The cooling system seems to be very similar or identical to the VN7-591G cooling system, which means it’s not the most efficient cooling system, but should do the job mostly. The heatpipes are shared between the CPU and GPU. The 7559 cooling system is much better, in comparison.

    Connection ports selection is outstanding compared to the competition, although it’s not extraordinary by itself. The thunderbolt 3.0 USB-C more or less makes the VN7-592G the most interesting in this area compared to the Lenovo Y700 and Dell 7559. The thunderbolt 3 can do DisplayPort, PCIe V.3 x4 and USB 3.1 altogether, so we are good here. HDMI is also included.

    The motherboard itself was pretty “Soft” and easily got bent. It is not necessarily bad, but it might suggest building quality that is not meant to prevails traveling through time. There was constant “electrical noise” I was hearing, besides the HDD noise.

    Keyboard and touchpad

    Keyboard. The new VN7-592G keyboard doesn’t remind me the previous VN7-591G keyboard. At first, I thought it was bad, but after a short time I got used to it and recognized that it’s actually quite nice. Feedback (knowing when you’ve clicked enough) is good and clear and resistance is good (but I’d like it to be higher), travel depth is acceptable (should have been a little better in my taste) and keys are well spaced and well textured. They’ve fixed the space bar issue of not having clear pressure point. There is a variance in experience over the keys, not all of them act the same. Response is good and typing rapidly is a no issue for me (and I’m not an expert).

    The power button is now the most east-northern button, which might cause problems when people will mistakenly click it, but that shouldn’t be too big problem.

    Overall, I can say that the keyboard is reaching the “good” levels and certainly above average for this segment of laptops and price (mostly because the competition is weak). The Inspiron 7559 has a lousy keyboard compared to the VN7-592G one

    Touchpad. Big, pleasant textures, no problems with clicking and moving at the same time. The surface still makes problem when moving the finger forward (vs towards yourself) which is annoying, but not a lot. It seems like they’ve improved the touchpad (maybe it’s just the better drivers) and now it is a very usable touchpad. It is a little shaky though, when clicking, but not the worst thing ever.

    Sound & Speakers

    Above average. The 4.0 speakers are located at the bottom of the VN7-592G, with the two near the rear producing the lows and the two near the front producing mids and highs. The location of the speakers results in a more muffled sound, but generally the speakers sound very nice with good mids or high-mids and the rear speakers provide good support with gentle lows. It’s not that the speakers are great or even very good, but I feel like the combination and configuration is well made, compared for their bottom location and the fact that these are laptop-level speakers. Together, they produce a nice sound, even though it’s not really accurate and obviously lack in clarity. Their location is the biggest problem, and I guess there is not a lot one can do about it, except using a cooling pad or something to elevate the laptop above the surface. Or, you can just position it in a way that lets the speakers breath.

    I enjoyed very much, for example, songs like Autumn Leaves by Eva Cassidy:

    Couldn’t say that about the Inspiron 15 7559.

    General subjective performance experience

    The basic VN7-592G comes with a non-SSHD 5400RPM 1TB HDD. It’s not fast, but my experience was good enough for everyday use. Booting up and starting programs is not as fast as one would like. The M.2 slot is waiting to be housed. Acer should have used the usual SSHD for this task.

    Added CPU-Z and GPU-Z screenshots.

     

    Gaming Performance

    Test Methods & Drivers

    OS : Windows 10, fully updated

    Drivers: Nvidia Geforce 358.91

    Summarized gaming performance

    Nothing too special. The usual GTX 960M numbers, except maybe for games like Anno 2205 and Shadow of Mordor which use more than the 2GB of VRAM found in most of the GTX 960M till now Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review Gaming Performance

    Crysis 3

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Crysis 3 GTX 960M benchmarks

    Thief

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Thief GTX 960M benchmarks

    Bioshock Infinite

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Bioshock Infinite GTX 960M benchmarks

    Civilization : Beyond Earth

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Civilization Beyond Earth GTX 960M benchmarks

    Total War : Attila

    The new iteration of Total War : Rome II, Attila is a much more demanding game and FPSs are much lower.

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Total War Attila GTX 960M benchmarks

    Metro : Last Light

    Metro : Last Light is a very demanding game with AO and tessellation taking a lot of the GPU juice. It might be a matter of optimization too.

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Metro Last Light GTX 960M benchmarks

    Battlefield 4 Campaign

    BF4 campaign benchmark

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Battlefield 4 GTX 960M benchmarks

    Alien : Isolation

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Alien Isolation GTX 960M benchmarks

    World of Warships

    The new title from the series of “World of [some gun]” herladed by the popular World of Tanks.

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : World of Warships GTX 960M benchmarks

    World of Tanks

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : World of Tanks GTX 960M benchmarks 2

    Shadow Of Mordor

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Shadow Of Mordor GTX 960M benchmarks

    Dragon Age : Inquisition

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Dragon Age Inquisition GTX 960M benchmarks

    Dota2

    The new Dota2. The characteristics of CPU and GPU usage are strange. Both are underutilized, so something is bottlenecking. But moreover, it doesn’t seem right that the CPU is so stressed in this game, especially since in many points in the game there isn’t a lot of action/effects. I suspect that the new Dota 2 engine is already being readies to Vulkan API and we are seeing here, actually, the different way things are working with Vulkan. We’ll see how my bet pan out.

    Dell Inspiron 15 7559 Review Dota 2 GTX 960M benchmarks

    Ashes Of Singularity

    The new Ashes of Singularity benchmark. I’m adding this although the game is in pre-beta stage and performance varies between updates (numbers changed even when I run a small update)

    Anyway, currently DX12 code path in AoS has no advantage in terms of FPS with Nvidia card. We already know this is not the case with AMD GCN GPUs, though – read. It seems that the game is probably GPU-bound and not CPU-bound too, otherwise we would see probably differences with DX12, even slight, but there are other viable reasons too.

    Games’ version: 0.62.14002

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Ashes of Singularity GTX 960M benchmarks

    Anno 2205

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Anno 2205 GTX 960M benchmarks

    Fallout 4

    The new Fallout 4 is rather demanding, but the benefits of the high graphics presets are not clear to me. I try and test more settings soon. I guess that the TAA Anti Aliasing and SSAO are largely responsible for the big performance hit. From my tests it seems like these settings impact isn’t that big, somehow (maybe there is a problem).

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review : Fallout 4 GTX 960M benchmarks

    Thermals, Throttling & Noise handling

    Stress tests and throttling behavior

    As described before, the GPU and CPU both have two connected cooling systems and heatpipes. Cool air sucked from the bottom of the machine (hence, it’s important to keep its bottom above the sitting surface) and is thrown from th rear ventilation holes.

    Four tests:

    1. Idle, power saver mode

    2. Gaming : Crysis 3 gameplay. “very high” settings with SMAAx2 For Crysis 3, “High performance” power mode.

    3. Prime95 torture test. “High performance” power mode.

    4. Prime95 + Furmark on 1366×768 test, AAx2. “High performance” power mode.

    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review CPU & GPU temperaturesThermals aren’t great in the VN7-592G, but they are as good as the previous generation VN7-591G, only that the Skylake CPU is more energy efficient. Using ThrottleStop 8.00 can help a lot and also, use of the Intel XTU to downvolt the CPU by 100mV could help the situation a lot. In this graph we see that in the Prime95 + Furmark test, the temperatures were lower than in the same test with 100mV downclock and the reason for it is that the CPU downclocked to much lower levels. Please see the throttling section below.

    Throttling is an issue with the VN7-592G, much of it because of the pretty poor cooling system. However, using Intel’s XTU and ThrottleStop can negate much of the downclocking and heat problems. I’ve added the temperatures graph again, but also some screenshots and clocks graph of Crysis 3 with and without the 100mV downvolt.

    Acer Aspire V15 VN7-592G Prime95 -100mV Acer Aspire V15 VN7-592G Prime95 + Furmark -100mV Acer Aspire V15 VN7-592G Prime95 + Furmark noTurbo 2.6 -100mV Acer Aspire V15 VN7-592G Prime95 + Furmark Acer Aspire V15 VN7-592G Prime95 Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review CPU and GPU clocks CPU Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review CPU and GPU clocks CPU -100mV Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review CPU & GPU temperatures

    Heat

    Under load, the chassis itself remains pretty cool with higher temps around the area between the display and the body. I find the VN7-592G to be a very good laptop in this aspect. The areas around the “F” keys will get much warmer, where the heatpipes are.

    Noise

    The maximal fans speed and noise isn’t very high and even under full loads, while the fans spinning fast, the noise isn’t high or annoying, but it will interfere with the sound from the game, if the it’s not powerful enough. However, under light load, the VN7-592G fans do produce noise, even under moderate load of the CPU.

    However, the VN7-592G does produce some kind of electrical noise under light load, which isn’t really a problem, but might suggest some overload of some component in the system.

    Screen & Screen quality

    The Acer VN7-592G comes with the LG LP156WF6-SPB1 1080p IPS display which is nothing new and is known to be a good display. The VN7-571G had it too.

     

    Colors are rather good and so are viewing angles. Contrast could be better, subjectively, a feeling that is backed up by the measurements taken as the black levels are not as good as you’d want.

    The screen does use PWM (source) and some people have reported the screen makes their eyes ache, so that’s a minus

    Screen Acer VN7-592G LG LP156WF6-SPB1 calibration file

    ContrastBrightnessBlack levels
    580 276 0.47
    sRGBadobeRGBNTSC
    91 69 64

    Battery Performance

    The VN7-592G isn’t too efficient in terms of power consumption and tends to have high power consumption even with low system loads. This results in maximal work time of around 5 hours with “power saver” power mode and doing almost nothing (but Chrome is open, which might have effect). However, it should suffice for watching an 1080p movie, even at 60FPS, for around 3-3.5 hours, easily.
    Acer Aspire VN7-592G Review Battery Performance

    Issues

    Had no big issue beyond the not so great thermals.

    Competing gaming laptops / Alternatives

      • Lenovo Y700 15.6″ – I5/I7 Skylake, 8-16GB DDR4, 1TB SSHD/SSD, 1080p IPS, GTX 960M. Currently overpriced prices at around $850-$950 ($850-$900 for the 250GB SSD version). Connection ports are lacking, 1080p IPS display (not great, but good), PWM for brightness control, relatively ok keyboard, good speakers.
      • The Clevo N155RF 15.6″ (review), equipped with the new GTX 965M version (“GTX 965M Ti”) which is a little bit faster than the previous version. Currently priced at around around $930 (8GB RAM) and TN panel. Fans are a little capricious and the laptop generally not the quiet. Good keyboard, good selection of connection ports (no TB3 though)
      • MSI PE60 6QE 15.6″ (review), ~$950-$1000 – I7-6700HQ Skylake, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, very good 1080p IPS display not an IPS display, good keyboard (according to NBC), chassis tends to get hot, but thermals should be good enough to handle the 960M and Skylake I7. Includenots DVDRW, M.2 PCIe + 2.5″ Sata 3 and speakers are not that bad. Read the Haswell version review. Includes 2 year warranty and 1 year global warranty
      • Dell Inspiron 15 7559 (review), ~$800 – I5 Skylake (4C/4T) CPU, GTX 960M 4GB, 8GB DDR3L, 1080p IPS, SSD/1TB SSHD. Gaming performance and thermals are good, maintenance is easy. However, IPS display is mediocre in IPS standards, speakers are keyboard are not good and no TB3 and M.2 PCIe.
      • For $750, the Toshiba S55 with a Skylake I7, GTX 950M DDR3, 8GB RAM, 1080p display (IPS?). Not in the same gaming performance level.
      • Asus GL551JW Zombie with Haswell I7, GTX 960M and IPS display for around $800. No TB3, no USB 3.1, thermals aren’t great nor the keyboard. I would tend to go with the Dell 7559 or VN7-592G instead, for the extra features and qualities.

      So, the PE60 6QE and the Dell 7559 are the most interesting competitors currently. The 7559 lacks in display, keyboard and speakers. The Keyboard part is problematic unless you have no problem using an external keyboard. The screen can be replaced, but the price goes up to VN7-592G levels and you still won’t get M.2 PCIe and TB3 and acceptable speakers like in the VN7-592G. Battery performance can be almost as twice as long with the 7559 compared to the VN7-592G, under light load, so that’s a win for the 7559. Also, the 7559 didn’t make the strange noises the VN7-592G and it comes with an SSHD or SSD (both for around the same price)

      The MSI PE60 6QE is a rather interesting proposition. It is actually more interesting than the GE62 currently, strangely, as a gaming laptop. The good feature set (keyboard, acceptable speakers, M.2 PCIe), performance and display make it a good option, but it depends on the price really.

       

    Conclusion

    So, the Acer Aspire VN7-592G shows good gaming results and displays relatively good feature set including TB3, M.2 PCIe. The 1080p IPS display is good with high brightness, good enough contrast are high color palette coverage. The keyboard, although different from the VN7-591G’s keyboard, is good too if you give it some time. Speakers produce pleasant sound. Chassis doesn’t get hot under full load or gaming load almost at all – not the keyboard surface nor the bottom. The weight is also relatively low at 2.3kg.

    The VN7-592G drawbacks are the thermals and build quality maybe. The CPU can get overheated under high CPU + GPU loads, but it can be mended by disabling TurboBoost via ThrottleStop and a little more with downvolting of the CPU (via Intel’s XTU). With “High Performance” Windows power mode, the fans are audible even under light load (like writing this post). The cooling system should have really been more serious, maybe like the 7559 cooling system. In hotter days it might prove more problematic than currently, when it is not as hot here. The build quality is a matter I’m not sure about. I do hear electrical kind noises when the system is loaded, but that’s also true for many other laptops. The 5400RPM HDD is drawback too, but can be replaced or aided by an M.2 drive.

    Battery performance isn’t great and the VN7-592G is surpassed easily by the 7559 which also has much higher capacity battery, but also higher efficiency under light load (like reading/writing)

    Overall, I find this laptop very compelling a as combination of performance and feature set. I would like to see an I5 version which would be considerably less prone to heat. The competitors, as described in the “alternatives” section are mostly the Dell 7559, MSI PE60 6QE (and GE62), Lenovo Y700 and the old Asus GL551JW that is currently selling for like $800 with a Haswell CPU. I do find the PE60 to be the most interesting, as it also has a good keyboard, good enough thermals, good enough speakers, very good 1080p IPS display and M.2 PCIe. It also has a USB 3.1 Type-C (but no TB3), so you lose the Thunderbolt 3. I don’t know the real qualities yet, so it might be a flop like the PX60. I’m also not sure about the thermals with an I7 CPU. We need to wait for a review, but the VN7-592G doesn’t have real competition here, although you can say they almost match, remembering that the PE60 comes with 2 year warranty and not just 1.

    So, bottom line, for the current price of $900 I think this is currently my recommended laptop thanks to the feature set and performance, but open your eyes for new models or good discounts, because the VN7-592G still lacks in the thermals department.

    Thinking about it again, it really depends on your preferences. Pasting the 7559 conclusion: “VN7-592G review is here and the conclusion is that it has better display overall, better speakers, better keyboard (all noticeable) and better feature set (M.2 PCIe, Thunderbolt 3 USB-C), but the 7559 is considerably cheaper at $760 (and same gaming performance), has much better thermals and lower noise, much better battery performance and more appealing default storage device (SSHD/SSD vs 5400RPM HDD in the VN7-592G). So, it is really a matter of thinking what you prefer. For some, the keyboard is a no-issue, speakers are not that important (like, for me) and display is also not an issue because they use an external monitor or because it can be replaced.

    Weigh the advantages and disadvantages and make a choice.”

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    jonessy

    Hi junky, I planned to buy laptop with GTX 960M, it seems this acer aspire nitro is the best one around the price, do you think there is better option than the acer? The other candidate that I consider is Asus GL552VW, it’s a bit cheaper but it only has single fan, however some people said the keyboard & palmrest are still not so heated under gaming despite with only 1 fan.

    Junky
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    I think you should wait few months!

    He could finally install Windows 7 on it, just have to prepare the drivers ahead

    jonessy
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    jonessy

    What did you mean by wait few months? Did you mean I should wait for pascal gpu laptop instead? Yeah, I see that he could install win7 eventually but just get more hassle as this laptop doesn’t have usb 2.0 port so you have to find another way to put in the drivers as win7 by default doesn’t recognize usb 3.0. I just watch a review video of this aspire nitro, the temperature is more higher than GL552VW when under load. Now I’m more inclined to GL552VW. What do you think? Should I get GL552VW instead or should I wait… Read more »

    Junky
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    Yes, the GL552 (and G502) have good temps, relatively. Also, the 7559

    I’d wait for the Pascal – maybe it’s one of these performance jumps that we get every 2-3 years. I’d certainly wait. The current performance level has been around for like 2.5 years (don’t believe the marketing) and it’s worth waiting

    jonessy
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    jonessy

    oh ok, but what I worry is the pascal laptop gpu (typically the lower range 1050M/1060M) would be just refreshed (slightly increase of clock speed) from the 950M/960M, in other words it’s not a big jump.

    Dell 7559 seems a good option too but its IPS panel’s color is not that good, and FHD screen model doesn’t sold in my country, only 4K model exist which I think it’s not worth for gaming.

    Junky
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    I really don’t think so:

    a. The current reports from good sources (videocardz) show that the 1060M is the new stuff and it’s quite powerful (at least as fast as GTX 970M, I hope that it’ll be true)

    b. They have been squeezing these GPUs for quite some time now..

    geralt rivia
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    geralt rivia

    Junky I have this acer 592g but is it normal when I play sound music or movie at max/high volume around 70-100 there is some buzz vibration sound in the back speaker??? Thnks..

    geralt rivia
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    geralt rivia

    But when the volume normal high but not to high around 0-60 there is no vibrating ngiing
    sound.

    Junky
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    it sometimes happen.. was it always like that?

    geralt rivia
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    geralt rivia

    It happen where there is a boom sound like the opening of Avengers age of Ultron… The sound is like vibration/buz/ngiiing sound.. But just when there is a high intensity sound.. And when I’m using dolby Movie effect..

    geralt rivia
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    geralt rivia

    Does this normal for Acer V nitro 592g?

    geralt rivia
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    geralt rivia

    And yes it happen all the time when I set
    the volume high. about above 50

    Junky
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    actually, I don’t remember, but one thing you can try is disabling the sound software – you know what I’m talking about?

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    Hello Junky, thank you for the great review!
    I have a question though which might be stupid, but can I install windows 7 on this Acer? I saw only windows 8 and 10 is supported, but I really don’t like those, and was wondering if the drivers worked under win7 conditions. I assume they are not and I’ll have to get used to win10, but it’s worth a try to ask.
    Thank you

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    What I found so far was that the audio driver is definitely not working with no solution (as far as I know).

    Junky
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    Did you try?

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    No, just planning to buy the notebook. I’ve read the audio driver issue in a few topics while searching for win7 compatibility problems – searching for the notebook name + “windows 7” should give some results, for example: https://superuser.com/questions/1075480/vn7-792g-black-edition-with-windows-7 -, but (at least in those topics) they yet to find a solution to make the audio work just like the other drivers.

    Junky
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    Well, according to what they saying, the audio indeed won’t work properly and though I’m not sure it’s true, I have no other information – nor I have the laptop to check it..
    Why do you want 7 so much?

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    It’s not that I want it so much, I just prefer it over both 8 and 10, as I had the “luck” using both. Obviously, if something isn’t going to work this way, I’ll just have to switch.
    Thank you for your help!

    Junky
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    I’ll go with 10 over 8 – less annoying and will have more years of support

    Junky
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    wait, why the VN7-592G at all?

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    I don’t get it, do you consider this model worse than others? I’d like a laptop good for both gaming and other performance-heavy tasks (video editing, multitasking with several applications opened, etc.), and this one is on my budget limit (couldn’t find better combo than 960M + 6700HQ). The model I looked at also has SSD included. Just letting you know, that prices vary from the $ ones that one can find online, for example the Dell 7559 is more expensive that the Acer, without SSD.

    Junky
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    where are you checking the prices?

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    Local and online shops mostly in my country.

    Would you have other recommendations or where are we going?

    Junky
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    well, that depends on the price, but can you find anything significantly cheaper?
    What country are we talking about?

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    From Hungary. I’d like to avoid ordering from abroad, it’s troublesome in case of some failure and the keyboard also has a different layout (due to different letters). The only other notebooks with similar prices are models from Asus (G551VW/G501VW/G551JW/etc.), and the MSI GE62 2QC, but mostly they aren’t coming with an SSD and the proccessor is often weaker a bit (which, then again, isn’t that great of a problem, but why not the better for the same price?). Lenovo Y700 is there as well, but Lenovo is out of question due to literally the worst customer service here. The… Read more »

    Junky
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    1. You’ll see no advantage in games with an I7 over an I5 Skylake, with a GPU like the GTX 960M, even the 965M
    2. An I5 is also less hot
    3. Can you install SSD yourself?
    4. Do you need OS pre-installed?

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    1. Yes, I’m aware of that bottleneck. What matters for me is the general performance over the next few years, not just gaming.
    2. Indeed. Noise is not something that bothers me, though.
    3. No, I can’t. I dissassembled notebooks before, but wouldn’t try to install an SSD alone, potentially breaking the warranty.
    4. No, I have a copy of Win7, I will upgrade that to 10 if needed.
    Would you still suggest the i5 version? Or the Dell one, despite being more expensive?

    Junky
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    1. But the question is whether it worths the money. I’m not sure and personally I wouldn’t be worried about it 2. Heat also means more throttling in some cases (like in the VN7-592G) 3. It won’t break the warranty. The thing is, specific models with SSD sometimes costs a lot more just for being pre-configured with an SSD No, if the I5 is more expensive then no, I wouldn’t recommend it, only if it saves significant amount. How about the basic Lenovo Y700 with 4GB RAM – you can upgrade http://www.laptopszalon.hu/laptop_notebook/lenovo/Lenovo_IdeaPad_Y700-15ISK_Intel_Core_i5_Quad_Core_6300HQ_4GB_1TB_NVIDIA_DOS_Fekete_80NV00EXHV_19704.html One big advnatage of the VN7-592G, though, is… Read more »

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    I wasn’t kidding about the Lenovo customer service. Even magazines about the topic warned about buying a Lenovo here. In case of some computer failure, you are pretty much screwed. Personal experience, both my and my sister’s Lenovo ended up being stuck there for months, and when they sent them back (after trying to contact them a million times), the problems weren’t even fixed. So no, no Lenovo ever again until they do something about their service, because without it, it’s a pig in a poke. Also, adding an extra 4GB ram plus even the smallest SSD, and I’m already… Read more »

    Junky
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    what a difference.. The 7559 in the US is a lot cheaper.
    1. Personally I’d go with the VN7-592G I5 version with no SSD and I’ll add it myself
    or, the version with the SSD, but not the I7

    I think that such a difference (over $200 between the lowest VN7-592G and the most expensive) is too big. You can buy a basic 592G and resell it after a year..

    2. If you can find something with GTX 950 GDDR5 it could be great, because it’s basically the same.

    3. No cheap GTX 965M options?

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    1. Thank you, I still haven’t fully decided between the i7 and i5 version yet, but if you say that there’s barely any performance difference, I’ll go with the i5. I don’t plan on upgrading again for a while, though.

    2. There are a few, mainly Asus and Lenovo, but I didn’t find them appealing.

    3. No, in fact, there isn’t any with 965M. 970M is way out of reach.

    Junky
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    then I guess the VN7-592G is the most appealing option
    btw, where I live, Acer’s support isn’t the best..

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    Trust me, can’t be worse than Lenovo here. It was already bad when they shipped the computers to Poland, but hell came when a Hungarian company (shady as well) became the center of service. Basically every article and comments says it’s horrible. Don’t know if the conditions improved in the past 1-2 years or not, but I sure as hell not risking it.

    Anyway, thank you again for all the help, I really appreciate it. Take care and have a nice day! I’ll leave a message if I could use win7 properly or not (if you are interested).

    Junky
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    quite amazing how much we are really *not* a small global village..

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    Hello again! So I bought the computer but I have a problem. After hours of suffering to be able to install win7 (changing the boot mode, creating a bootable usb from my disc then having to upgrade it so it supports the usb 3.0 ports), I finally managed to do so, but now I’m stuck. I need drivers to have at least internet on the computer (so I can start doing windows updates, and eventually upgrade to win10), but it doesn’t recognise my USB devices (on either ports). So without internet (and apparently, usb drivers), now I’m in a situation… Read more »

    Junky
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    Hi Thomas!

    1. So, it came with DOS?
    2. You can use cable to connect to the internet, no?
    3. How come it doesn’t recognize the USB ports? quite strange..
    4. Any other pc? you can download it there and copy it to a DOK or something

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    Fast reply as always, Junky! 1. Linux, but that’s essentially the same, I removed it before installing win7. 2. That was my last resort idea, but without LAN driver, it’s not working either. 3. I have no idea. I’ve installed windows 7 a hundred times in my life but this is the first time I can’t get them to work. Possibly because it’s not supported, but I’ve read about others installing it on this model without this problem, so I don’t get it. 4. I have the drivers already downloaded on my current pc but I have no idea how… Read more »

    Junky
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    DOK = Disk On Key, those small USB fingers, but your USB ports not working
    Maybe you need an updated version of Windows 7. Maybe you need to install SP2 somehow

    It makes no sense that the USB doesn’t work at all – basic functionality should be working, as it works even without Windows.. How did you install Windows 7?

    Edit: I can’t connect, silly me

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    It is recognised in the BIOS, and I’m also able to boot from it. But after the installation, there is no sign of detection. Could be the windows 7, although it’s a latter version with SP2 integrated. I could try downloading another one for the sake of testing out, but it was extremely annoying to make this work already. God damn you microsoft.

    Junky
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    This is very, very strange, this is the same chipset for quite some time, no?
    I think maybe you can use Windows PE to copy files: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/commercialize/manufacture/desktop/winpe-intro

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    I’ve tried another version of windows 7, problem remains the same. So I’ll need to find an alternate way to move files there..

    Junky
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    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    Yes, but no solution. When I try to connect it, it doesn’t even show up the “device not recognised” message, nothing happens. I can’t tell if there’s a sound or not either, obviously, since the sound doesn’t work. In device manager, this is what I see: https://imgur.com/nDV183K I also tried linux mint, with no success. Setting the boot setting back to UEFI just results the “no bootable device” message. What I’m attempting now is creating a bootable windows with the drivers already “included”, using rt 7 lite. Will see if that works, because if not, I’ll just give up …… Read more »

    Junky
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    It’s my pleasure and, you know, people help people

    Do you have another PC? you can pull out the HDD/SSD out from the VN7 and connect one of them to the other PC and copy the files into it

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    I have another, but doing this is way out of my expertise. I’d just create more problems than solutions, and I’ve read that this model isn’t easy to disassemble either.
    So my truly last try is installing a downloaded windows 10, trying to copy the driver files to the HDD, then reinstall windows 7 and hopefully go from there. I’ll leave a note if it worked or not, for the sake of troubleshooting tips in case someone else has the same troubles.

    Junky
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    1. I think it could take less time, but as you wish
    2. Also, do you have a serial key for your windows 7? I think you can activate W10 with this serial : http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/activation-in-windows-10

    Thomas G.
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    Thomas G.

    1. This was way faster for me 🙂 2. I do, but I’ve read that you can’t use that serial number if you install a clean win10, it only works if you upgrade from (an activated) win7/8. And that’s where I had the problem of course. I finally managed to do it, since the USB was working after installing win10. I copied the lan and wlan driver to the HDD, the wlan worked on win7, so I managed to download the win10 updater. Now that the activation is done, I should be able to do a clean install and hopefully… Read more »

    Junky
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    great to hear! Let me know how is the laptop for you!

    Junky
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    Hi Thomas!

    Yes, I’d actually expect win 8 drivers to work well for windows 7, for a desktop/laptop!
    However, at this point, you’ll get no DirectX 12 if you go for any windows less than 10 – it may be changed in the future + Vulkan should be available for all versions, but still

    Mahfud Permana
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    Mahfud Permana

    Can you give me your opinion. I wanted to buy this Acer(gtx 960m 4gb ddr 5 i7) because the TB 3 port for the price and pretty great gpu and good cpu. I want this TB 3 port for the future 2-3 years years later and for using external graphics amplifier (possibly Razer Core). But my problem is, there is another laptop in my country that the spec is higher and have a good quality and the battery is bigger and longer. It use nvidia gtx 965m 4gb ddr 5, same cpu as acer, 1 tb hdd, plus 128gb ssd.… Read more »

    Junky
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    Well, we don’t know yet if the VN7-592G will get an eGPU support.. maybe it’s better to wait with this purchase in your case

    Mahfud Permana
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    Mahfud Permana

    Thanks Junky for your reply. Does eGPU like (Razer Core possibly for another Razer Laptop) need any Egpu support? Does the need is only Thunderbolt 3 40gbps speed connector?

    Junky
    Guest

    They have to enable it in the bios. It’s really nothing for them, but unless they’ll do this change, you won’t be able to use the eGPU, as far as I know currently (maybe it will change..)

    Mahfud Permana
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    Mahfud Permana

    Thanks for your info.. So Junky what’s your recommendation??

    1.Should i buy the acer or the another laptop (gtx 965m 4gb ddr5)…

    2. Or i should wait for couple of month for the next gaming series like Lenovo, Asus,Acer for maybe better graphic Card plus TB 3??

    3.And can you explain what do you mean by (maybe it will change)??Thanks Junki..

    Junky
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    If I were you, I’d wait. Can’t tell you what to do, but it’s better to wait in my opinion

    Maybe in the future, you won’t need any special bios update in order to use eGPU. Currently, you have to wait

    Mahfud Permana
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    Mahfud Permana

    Ok Junky(I learn so much about this topic thanks).. But let say that acer can use eGPU like Razer Core. If i want to buy the laptop now, which laptop should i choose?? Acer 592g that have Thunderbolt 3 or the another laptop that have better graphic card(gtx965m) and more battery life.. Which do you choose..

    Junky
    Guest

    if it could, then probably it’s better to go with the Acer
    What is the second laptop? any specific model?

    Mahfud Permana
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    Mahfud Permana

    In my country Junky, there is a local gaming brand. It has a good quality laptop use full alloy in the laptop and big battery 6 cell smart lion plus 128 ssd and windows 10 pro.. The name is Xenom (Brand Name) and the series name is Xenom Shiva.. If you want to, you can check their website (just search Xenom laptop in Google).. But the Shiva laptop in their website still the last year model because the new one is still pre order.. It will come end of this month.. So Junky the bottom line is.. In your opinion… Read more »

    Junky
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    link please! probably a Clevo or maybe an MSI or something

    Well, if these are the only two option, then yes, I’d go with the Acer probably. A GTX 960M is a desktop GTX 750 Ti, so you can see it’s much much cheaper

    In the US, you can also purchase laptops like the XPS 9550 with thunderbolt 3, for example

    Mahfud Permana
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    Mahfud Permana

    This is the link http://www.xenompc.com

    And Junky so if the question change into this.. Which laptop i should in your opinion.. Buy laptop with Thunderbolt 3 and gtx 960m or just standard USB type C but with gtx 965m??

    Junky
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    Personally, I’d go eith the acer in this case

    jonessy
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    jonessy

    I found same issue like in the MSI PE60 review page too on: “Clevo new 15.6″ midrange proposition like this. Overpriced to my taste. No TB3, no USB 3.1 and the IPS display isn’t great according to LaptopMedia (link). So that’s a no go, even if they fixed the thermals and keyboard.”

    Junky
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    ok, that’s very strange, it seems like this is a copy of the other article, because there is no way I wrote the same thing exactly in two separate articles..
    I’ll check that and many thanks

    jonessy
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    jonessy

    Another one at below: “It is actually more interesting than the PE62 currently…”.
    I googled MSI PE62, there is no results at all, could it be a typo? Did you mean GE62 ?

    I also want to comment about IPS screen on MSI PE60, from the amazon link, there is customer review that said the screen is not IPS, but there is other user that said it is IPS. So it seems IPS panel on PE60 is kinda random or maybe depends on region (?)

    Junky
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    that comes to show you how much people really read this (-:

    Can you link to this comment where this person says it’s an IPS?

    jonessy
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    jonessy
    Junky
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    check the images of the screen from the reviewer above Mario – you’ll see it’s not an IPS

    jonessy
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    jonessy

    Yeah, I already saw that. You mentioned “very good 1080p IPS display, good keyboard (according to NBC),”
    NBC = notebookcheck ? AFAIK, notebookcheck only ever reviewed the PE60 2QE (core i5 haswell version). On my locals, there is people that bought PE60 2QE but it’s core i7 broadwell version and he checked it’s not IPS. So I guess the IPS is random or maybe depends on the specific build.

    Junky
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    Yes, it was based on the Haswell version review and I haven’t updated it yet. I really have to make it a little more automatic

    Junky
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    And also, these words are only correct for the time of writing..